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Name: Mayarn Julia Lawford

Mayarn Julia Lawford - Childhood on the stock route [ORAL HISTORY]


Synopsis: Her parents Jimmy and Jinny James took Mayarn down the Canning Stock Route from Billiluna when she was small. They took goats to the drovers as meat. She was scared when she saw camels for the first time. She broke her leg on the trip and was looked after by a nurse from Wiluna. Then they brought the goats back to Nyarna, Lake Stretch.

Date: 8/17/2007
Art centre(s):
Language spoken: English, Wangkajungka, Walmajarri
Catalogue number: CSROH_32_Mayarn_Julia_Lawford
Interviewed By: Putuparri Tom Lawford, John Carty
Translated By: Putuparri Tom Lawford
Location Recorded: Nyarna, Lake Stretch
Latitude/Longitude: -19.0796/128.2542

Cultural Protocols: PUBLIC ACCESS
Access: PUBLIC
Notes: Some corrections and additions were made to this transcript when permission was sought on 3 September 2008. These changes have incorporated into this document.
Full transcript:
My father Jimmy James and my mother Jinny James, they both took me. I was small then. I don’t know, might be that high. They been take me with camel, from here now. From this place, Billiluna we went droving somewhere. I don’t know which road.

[Tom tells Mayarn to speak in Walmajarri.]

We went, they took me when I was small. We were taking goats for the drovers as meat when they were droving cattle. One kartiya [white man] by the name of Jack Barry was in charge of the goats. We went straight down on the Canning Stock Route. I don’t know where. Past Kaningarra. Long way from there. Camping along the way.

Every night we used to make yards out of wood and big grass and leaves and branches for the goats, so they can’t get away, then herded them in for the night. In the mornings we let them, gave them water from the wells and kept on going. Me, they put me in a box on a camel after, after I broke my leg. I was only a little girl then. We were having dinner somewhere and these kartiyas [white people] came, all the camel man. I got scared from seeing those camels. My mum said, ‘Look out manga [girl]! Camels are coming!’ I ran. I didn’t see that goanna hole. I tripped over and broke my leg. That mob that came with the camels had a nurse with them too. They put two sticks on my broken leg and then wrapped it with bandage. It was broken. They put that on me. Nurse coming from Wiluna side, I am from Billiluna.

We kept on going, I don’t know where. I don’t know that place. Then we had to come back from there, from half-way, because those kartiyas [white people] told us to take the goats back to Nyarna [Lake Stretch]. We came back from there with those goats. Right back to here, Nyarna. They were killer [those goats], meat to kill and eat here. We stayed around there for a while before bringing those goats back, after those kartiya fixed my leg. We then travelled back, taking them goats from … I don’t know what well and I don’t know how many nights we camped. We came back from a long way. My mum never told me where we came back from or where we went to. We finally made it to here, to Nyarna. Them other kartiyas that were here said, ‘Hey, why are they coming back with them goats?’ That kartiya Jack Barry was with us too. He spoke to the manager and told him why we had to come back. Wali nyamu [finished, that’s all].

END
Source: CSROH_32_Mayarn_Julia_Lawford

Provenance: This material is sourced from Ngurra Kuju Walyja — the Canning Stock Route Project, which was initiated in 2006 by FORM and developed in partnership with Birriliburu, Kayili, KALACC, Mangkaja, Martumili, Ngurra, Papunya Tula, Paruku IPA, Warlayirti and Yulparija artists and art centres.

Jukuja Dolly Snell, Ngilpirr Spider Snell, Purlta Maryanne Downs, Manmarr Daisy Andrews, Amy Nuggett

Jukuja Dolly Snell, Ngilpirr Spider Snell, Purlta Maryanne Downs, Manmarr Daisy Andrews, Amy Nuggett - conversation notes [ORAL HISTORY]
Synopsis: These are notes taken from a conversation at Mangkaja Arts Resource Agency between Jukuja Dolly Snell, Ngilpirr Spider Snell, Purlta Maryanne Downs, Manmarr Daisy Andrews, and Amy Nuggett.

Date: 2009-11
Art centre(s): Mangkaja Arts Resource Agency
Language spoken: Kriol, English
Catalogue number: CSROH_239_Mangkaja_Group_Discussion
Date: 2009-11
Transcribed By: Monique La Fontaine
Location Recorded: Fitzroy Crossing
Latitude/Longitude: -18.17/125.59

Cultural Protocols: Public Access - Restrictions on Use
Access: Public
Full transcript: Group: [About drovers] Jinamungkurr, Spider’s sister, and Wakajiya were cookies [cooks] on the stock route.

Daisy Andrews: [On drover Tommy Bull, Mapariny Alan Dededar’s father] He was a good fuckin’ rider that old man!

Dolly Snell: [What the whitefellas used to say to old people who would work as drovers] You go get ‘em boot and whip — you goin’ Wiluna now!

Group: Mervyn Street was working in Wiluna. Raymond went with Carl Stein, station manager for Carnegie, down to Wiluna. He took most of his workers from Louisa Downs to Carnegie. Mervyn’s Gooniyandi brother went to Wiluna, kilaki side [on his paternal grandfather’s side] might be.

Hitler [Pamba – Nyuju Stumpy Brown’s second husband] was working Wiluna same time as Mervyn.

Purlta [Maryanne Downs] and Jarinyanu [David Downs] worked around Carnegie with Ben Taylor.

Amy Nugget – [Amy is mother for Rosie Williams and Dulcie Gibbs. Jakayu Biljabu is Amy’s daughter in law.]

Dolly Snell: We been sing that Minyipuru [Seven Sisters] song everywhere, long time, Wangkatjungka.

Spider Snell: Jarinyanu been puluman [bullock] drovin’. [Tommy] Bull, Jarinyanu [David Downs], Jamili [Chum Lee] – all working together Carnegie [Station].

[Spider and Jarinyanu mother’s name was Intiya.]

Maryanne Downs: My husband been grow ‘em up me from kid.

END
Source: CSROH_239_Mangkaja_Group_Discussion
Rights: Cultural Owner & Storyteller: Jukuja Dolly Snell, Ngilpirr Spider Snell, Purlta Maryanne Downs, Manmarr Daisy Andrews, Amy Nuggett; © FORM, transcript only

Provenance: This material is sourced from Ngurra Kuju Walyja — the Canning Stock Route Project, which was initiated in 2006 by FORM and developed in partnership with Birriliburu, Kayili, KALACC, Mangkaja, Martumili, Ngurra, Papunya Tula, Paruku IPA, Warlayirti and Yulparija artists and art centres.

Name: Jarran Jan Billycan

Jarran Jan Billycan - her Country, jila, and escaping a bullock [ORAL HISTORY]


Synopsis: Yulparija mob came from bush Country and walked all around desert, now living in Bidyadanga. Jarran belongs to Kiriwirri, her jila.
They were walking up to Sandfire, got picked up in truck.
She saw bullocks on the Canning Stock Route and climbed a tree to escape the bullock because she was scared.

Date: 2007-08-01
Art centre(s): Yulparija Artists
Language spoken: Yulparija, Kriol
Catalogue number: CSROH_45_Jarran_Jan_Billycan
Interviewed By: 2007-08-01
Transcribed By: Martina Badal
Translated By: Martina Badal
Location Described: Bidyadanga
Location Recorded: Bidyadanga
Latitude/Longitude: -18.68/121.78

Cultural Protocols: PUBLIC ACCESS - RESTRICTIONS ON USE
Access: PUBLIC
Notes: A second person occasionally speaks, but is unidentifiable. This transcript contains corrections and additional information given by Jan Billycan on 29/03/2009.
Full transcript:
Jan Billycan: [OnYulparija mob] They came from bush Country, desert Country down, they walked all around jila, desert, this side of Wiluna, you know that one. We all went, big mob family. Now we in Bidyadanga, they built a house and now we are living in Bidyadanga. We been sit down here.

All around house ... just like cubby house ... all around house, all around, yawi [poor thing] ... door, door here, fences. Hospital here. All around ... here. Old people here. Another lot there that side, all around, all around here. I been come bush. I belong to Kiriwirri, I belong to Kiriwirri, my jila, bush, desert Country. We left our boys down there somewhere. After that Japulu [XX- Father- McKelson?] been get us. This place with a truck Japulu been get us, pick em up with a big truck.

John Carty: Which side you been born?

JB: We been put em koolta [school] for the kids.

JC: Where you been born?

JB: I been born desert ... desert Dountry. We been leave my kids behind and my husband been bring em. My husband been bring em here. He been pass away my husband … and two fellas been come behind. We sit down here now. Finish. We can’t come back bush.

JC: Which Country you been walking around when you little girl? Where you been walk?

JB: Kiriwirri mine one, Kiriwirri mine jila ... I been born there. And this one Yukuyi country this two fella. Kiriwirri Country mine. Everybody belong you know. Kids been born there, right there. Kiriwirri mine Country. Kiriwirri jila. You know round one? Right there. I belong to Kiriwirri country, my one.

JC: Is Kiriwirri Country this side?

JB: Yeah yeah ... you’re right there now ... this side. Jakalala. [XX- Nyangumarta country] Jakalala you know, big one stone you know, That one he been clean. He been sit down, they been sit down Jakalalangka, two days. He been go this way now. He got stone, big one, Jakalala. You know that big one? He got water here. Right there. He standing up, this-kind, stone. At two water.

JC: And which way you been travelling? When you been come this way? Which way you been travelling?

JB: This side, straight fella. [Coming down straight to Sandfire]. Japulu been get us. Japulu been get em napingka [the ones left behind]. One place. They been this side. Japulu been pickem up. Bushmen, you know. Another one Japulu from Broome. Bush people, he been pickem up. Big truck ... big one! You remember we been put them jijirti koolja [school kids], right there, Bidyadanga.

JC: When you been travelling around..when you been little girl, did you see them bulluman [bullock]?

JB: [Moos] Yes, I been see them in this place, Wiluna this side. The boys been tak em bullock. [Moos] ... they been takem bullock, bush [moos]. He been running and I been climb up the tree.

JC: You been frightened?

JB: Yeah, I been climb up. Moo, moo! Round and round he been go that way, round. Might be he been see me and I been climb up … fast one. He been go around first, that side. He been round here.

JC: You never seen them before … ?

JB: Yeah, I never did, I never seen big one bullock you know. Moo! Moo, moo! I been climb right up on top tree. My dog been there, that side, mind them for me.

JC: Underneath that tree?

JB: Yeah, he been doing that, underneath that tree. [Splutters with Laughter] He been round them up ... wait, wait wait, what time, finish him, he been go round and round. He been look around for me. He been look around for me, he never see me, on top of tree. I been frightened ... on top. Standing up there on top, bulluman [bullock] go round and round, big one, looking around for me. Bullock from desert. He been take em bushman desert, Wiluna nguru [from] ... Otherside not this side. Sit down right in the middle.

JC: What did you think when you first been see that bullock? What did you think he was?

JB: Bullock been come. He been come around from this way, moo!

JC: Did you taste em kuyu [meat]?

JB: They been have one bullock from ... he never give us ... he been give em all nother lot to old people ... not me ... I never had fresh one bulluck. [Laughs] I been have em now.
Big mob old people been sit down, they been give it to me now, bullock, yeah, I been have em. Finish. Make me pull up. [Laughs] Long way, long way, you know, from Country, desert Country look. Whole lot this one, whole lot.

They asked me where I come from ... I been tell them long way Country, you fella got to go there now, I been put em right way. Yaku [brother in law] I been put em koolja [school] innit [isn’t it]? I been working here.

JC: When you been come this way, Bidyadanga, your family behind, did they go another way?

JB: Yeah, you right ... I been come here and stop in one place now. Yulparija side. We are all stopping here now ... No more come back desert.

JC: How come your family come this way. What for?

JB: Right place

JC: Old man said no people left

JB: No people, nothing.

[Old man in language: no people, all gone that way look, Yapurta, [south] We been looking for that people ... nothing!]

JB: Kiriwirri, Kunta, they gone to three jila – and Yukarri. Bidyadanga, Broome, us mob. Finish. I’m here now, that’s all. Yeah, Palya wangka [That’s a good story].

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Source: CSROH_45_Jarran_Jan_Billycan
Rights: © Cultural Owner & Storyteller: Jarran Jan Billycan; © FORM, transcript only

Provenance: This material is sourced from Ngurra Kuju Walyja — the Canning Stock Route Project, which was initiated in 2006 by FORM and developed in partnership with Birriliburu, Kayili, KALACC, Mangkaja, Martumili, Ngurra, Papunya Tula, Paruku IPA, Warlayirti and Yulparija artists and art centres.

Paruku George Wallaby

Born: about 1930
Died: 2001

Language Group(s): Walmajarri
Art Centre(s): Red Rock Gallery
CSR Project role: Artist, contributor
Skin Group: Jangala

Biography: Paruku was born near Paruku with floodwater Dreaming. As a young man, he worked the Canning Stock Route droving cattle and, when stock work ceased after the introduction of equal wages in the 1960s, he moved to Kununurra. A respected law man and painter, Paruku was known there as the ‘rainmaker’.

Photographer: Kevin Kelly
Photography copyright: © Kevin Kelly
Format: Image
Source: Images - Catalogue
Category: People
Accession ID: 20131016_FORM_MIRA_B0090_0076

Provenance: This material is sourced from Ngurra Kuju Walyja — the Canning Stock Route Project, which was initiated in 2006 by FORM and developed in partnership with Birriliburu, Kayili, KALACC, Mangkaja, Martumili, Ngurra, Papunya Tula, Paruku IPA, Warlayirti and Yulparija artists and art centres.

Jawurji Mervyn Street

Born: about 1950

Language Group(s): Gooniyandi, Walmajarri, Jaru
Community: Yiyili
Art Centre(s): Mangkaja Arts Resource Agency
CSR Project role: Artist, contributor
Skin Group: Jupurra
Totem: Sugar bag
Country: Imanara, Mararra River

Biography: I been hearing lotta stories ’bout this droving, Wiluna to Billiluna, and I don’t even believe myself I’m here, halfway in this road.
As a young man Mervyn worked as a stockman on Carnegie station, where he met Martu people who had worked with his family on the stock route. In 2007 Mervyn travelled the ‘old bullocky road’ for the first time.

Photographer: Paul Elliott
Photograph date: 2007
Photography copyright: © Paul Elliott
Format: Image
Source: Images - Catalogue
Category: People
Accession ID: 20131016_FORM_MIRA_B0090_0018

Provenance: This material is sourced from Ngurra Kuju Walyja — the Canning Stock Route Project, which was initiated in 2006 by FORM and developed in partnership with Birriliburu, Kayili, KALACC, Mangkaja, Martumili, Ngurra, Papunya Tula, Paruku IPA, Warlayirti and Yulparija artists and art centres.

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