Name: Kamara Brandy Tjungurrayi
Kamara Brandy Tjungurrayi - Lost looking for family and station work [ORAL HISTORY]
Other Speaker/s: Elizabeth Nyumi (Brandy’s daughter)
Synopsis: Brandy Tjungurrayi talks about how he started walking from Kunawarritji, and how he was lost looking for his family. He tells how he was never frightened of helicopter.
Language spoken: Kukatja
Catalogue number: CSROH_65_Kamara_Brandy_Tjungurrayi
Interviewed By: Monique La Fontaine, Tim Acker
Transcribed By: Putuparri Tom Lawford
Translated By: Putuparri Tom Lawford
Location Recorded: Balgo
Cultural Protocols: Public Access - Restrictions on Use
Full transcript: Brandy Tjungurrayi: I walked from Kunawarritji, me. On foot to Nyipil, from Nyipil to Kinyu, from Kinyu I then went to Kilkil. From there on to Liberal then on to Kukapanyu then on to Natawalu.
Monique La Fontaine: were you at Natawalu when Helicopter…
BT: Yeah you ask that other lady for that story.
Elizabeth Nyumi: No, she asking if you seen Helicopter jumped on that helicopter.
BT: Yes, I did see him. To tell you the truth them other mob just saying it, I saw him go. Only me.
EN: Did the whole lot see him go?
BT: I was the only one seen him go. [Talking to Nyumi:] Where did you see him go from?
Elizabeth Nyumi: I was on top of the sand hills when I seen him go.
BT: I’ll just tell the story straight: I seen him go. I was the one who put him on.
MLF: What they think that helicopter was?
EN: Did they get frighten of it?
BT: We wasn’t frightened. From Natawalu I then went to Tiru. No kartiya didn’t take me, nothing. I went on my own, walking. I then went to Kulyayi then Katajillkarr and then to Jimpirrinykarra then on to Jintijinti, from there on to Kujuwarri,then on to Kartalapurru , then on to Kurninarra and on to Lampu.
BT: Yeah Kaningarra, then Lampu, then Jikarn. I then went down to Kilangkilang. From there through Nyalku then to the old station then to Balgo.
MLF: Old mission?
BT: Old mission. I stayed there for a while then this kartiya told me, ‘Alphonse you go back and bring your family back here’. He gave some tucker, some flour and other stuff and went back looking for my mob back through that same road I came on following the wells. At Kukapanyu I saw my father, they just came in when I got there this one here for father too. From there this drover came and picked us up and took us to Kurrungu, that’s where I stayed then. He gave me a job, I was working for him, I worked everywhere there, then when they was starting to drove cattle on the CSR droving cattle. That’s where I learned to ride a horse. He gave me one, a Billiuna horse. We worked everywhere there then till we knocked [off] for holidays for Christmas I think. We worked on the stock route too, branding cattle’s ear marking them and everything else, I was branding them, that was my job putting that hot iron in the fire and branding them. We did that at the old station at Lake Gregory, there was a big yard there, a big round one. That’s where I got that name Brandy. He gave me that name, my name is Brandy now because of them cattle that I was branding. I was given that name by a kartiya called Len, he gave me that name.
MLF: Can Brandy tell us about the CSR, or if he seen drovers droving or when he was growing up and walking around there?
EN: Did you see any bullocks on the CSR?
BT: Yeah we was spearing them and eating them, sometimes they used to leave us one there.
EN: She’s asking you where did you grow up?
BT: I grew up on my own Country, around Jupiter Well, our Country.
MLF: Young boy or man.
BT: Young boy, my father was from Jupiter Well, that’s where his dreaming from. My grandmother got him from there, jarriny [dreaming] from there. From there now I walked around to here. Walking around bush till they put us on a camel to here. I came here and I stayed here till today, I’m here. From Billiuna to old Balgo, from Old Balgo to the new one here. Natawalu kartiya, name [Well] 44.
[Nyumi talks about drinking oil or diesel]
BT: They used to rub that oil all over themselves, hair and all. These mob mad people, not me, I had brains, I didn’t do that.
MLF: And what he reckon?
BT: I saw them when I came back from hunting, they told me to rub myself with that oil. I said no, you mob drink it, I don’t want to die from that thing. That’s where he went from Helicopter, from Natawalu, mother and son. They left us with a bucket of sugar too, them kartiya.
EN: What about that coffee story?
MLF: Tell us about that coffee story, I want to hear it again, it’s a funny story.
BT: I don’t know I called it kirrangu, that coffee kirrangu grows on trees at Natarwarlu.
EN: They was calling coffee kapi.
BT: They was calling it kirrangu, that one when it grows on trees. We called it kirrangu. That’s where we put Helicopter and his mother on the chopper. We saw them later when we came along behind. Helicopter was the first one here, then us mob later might be after Christmas. No wagon, just camels we were walking with them. One kartiya went and sold cattle at Meekatharra, he then came back and took us with him.
Video recording: 169 HELICOPTER, LOOMOO, EUBENA 2.5 BALGO
Rights: Cultural Owner & Storyteller: Kamara Brandy Tjungurrayi; © FORM, transcript only
Provenance: This material is sourced from Ngurra Kuju Walyja — the Canning Stock Route Project, which was initiated in 2006 by FORM and developed in partnership with Birriliburu, Kayili, KALACC, Mangkaja, Martumili, Ngurra, Papunya Tula, Paruku IPA, Warlayirti and Yulparija artists and art centres.